Monday, September 22, 2008

Period 4 - The Road - Week 3 pgs. 91-135

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28 comments:

Aaron Fisher said...
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Aaron Fisher said...

Fear of survival scares the boy more then fear of death. For good reason too, those zombies freaked me out, did not see that coming. One thing i have come to realize about this book is to not stop reading. Every spot has a spook but then there is a break in the waters, enough to force yourself to give it a rest. Reality comes knocking and then it comes even closer and you realize that this could happen.

It almost has happened, thats the scariest part... this book is not fiction but an insight into the future of our race if we continue on our path of destruction. Our own worst enemy is ourselves.

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Anonymous said...

I just must say that McCarthy is such a creative and imaginative writer. Here is a excerpt from the book I really thought was great, "The cold relentless circling of the interstate earth. Darkness implacable. The blind dogs of the sun in their running. The crushing black vacuum of the universe" (130). McCarthy's perspective on life and use of metaphors truly brings out a great reading.

Does anyone else agree with me?

In addition, I must point out that the story gets more depressing, chaotic, and sickening but also engrossing to read.

Brennan said...

yeah nick i was looking at a lot of metaphors and thinking, wow, how would you ever compare these 2 things. but like you said, mccarthy is so creative he can do it and still make his work "flow".

And when the people that came out of the basement, i think it was foreshadowed by the boys dream about the wind up penguin. Those people almost seemed mindless, like someone wound them up so they walk and say "help me, help me". But no one wound them up, no one told them to call for help, it was an instinct.

Does anyone see the resemblance?

LailaFard said...

The next 45 pages of "The Road" showed me how much of a struggle it is for the man and the boy to survive. Especially in the harsh weather conditons they have to deal with and the lack of food they have.

The scariest part was the house they entered with the hatch in it. That was defifnitely not expected. It was almost like the boy knew something bad was going to happen because everytime they entered a house before he never freaked out as much as he did this time. It's almost like the people who are going to eat these people in the hatch are the ones who made all of this happen in the first place. May be eating people is a way for them to survive...which kind of scares me. They seem like they are wild and uncivilzed creatures, like they are not even human. When the man showed the boy how to kill himself when he thought those people were following him came off to me as a way to protect the boy. If they did get caught he didn't want him to go through the pain they would put him in. It was an act of love even though it seems ridiculious.

I believe this book is going to be more about the way they survive then the journey to their destination.

hillary nadler said...

Wow these next 45 pages got even more intense. While reading about the people locked in the basement I never thought about the penguin dream, but now that Brennan mentions it, I can totally see it.

In these pages I think both the father and son have less hope now then they did before. When they had to leave the cart behind, I feel like they had to leave a lot of their hope behind. The cart was always there to help them carry everything and losing it makes them weaker than they already were.

During the conversation on pgs 128-129, something the boy said struck me as interesting. He tells the dad that "we're carrying the fire." To me this didn't mean literally carrying around a fire, but that they basically control how much time they have left to live and what they are going to do with that time.

"He was beginning to think that death was finally upon them and that they should find some place to hide where they would not be found." (Page 129)The father thinks this, and i think this is like his final straw of hope finally leaving him. He never had much hope to begin with, but now I think it is all gone.

Lastly, when the boy mentions the other boy that they found I don't know what to make of it. Could it be that maybe they will find him in the end and he will lead them to stay alive? Could this possibly be the deceased mothers way of coming back to try and help them?

Jessica Regina said...

Ok so the more i read the book, the more i realize how hard they are trying just to stay alive. This story has gotten so much more intense. And like Hillary i also thought about how the boy said they were "carry the fire." The boy always asks if they are going to die and some part of me thinks he wants to just because of what they are going through. When the dad asks the boys always says he doesn't know. I know I sound crazy rite now but you never know!

The part with the people in the basement was creepy! I agree with Laila, the boy was deffinantly more frightened to go into that house than any of the other ones.

I think it will be interesting to continue reading and find out if they are going to survive and what other stryggles they are going to face.

Neda said...

The book has definitely turned into the story of their survival. At first I was wondering where they were heading but at this point in the story it has grown so intense as Jessica said, that all I'm curious about is their survival.

What doesn't make sense to me is why some people are hiding and begging for help, while others are looking for people to eat. Although, as the story continues everything that doesn't make sense slowly begins to fall together.

mikaelavournas said...

I agree with everybody who has mentioned that the story has become that of survival. Also, I have found that McCarthy uses the boy to foreshadow alot of the events that have occured. For instance the boy's behavior is a good indication or what's to come. Probably the most disturbing part of the book so far was the incident with the people in the house, and the man teaching the boy how to kill himself. It was very intense and unexpected.

Also, the post-apocolyptic circumstances McCarthy presents is the kind of circumstance where true human nature seems to come out. Like Neda said, there are the people who are relying on others for help, and the savage-like people who are pretty much "every man for themself". It shows which people will do anything for survival, and which just seem to give up.

Julie Desiderio said...

These next pages have definitly become much more intense and much more about every day survival.I found it very irronic when the dad insists upon him and the boy leaving when they find all the naked dying people. To a reader, like all of us, those people all seem harmless considering they are probably starving. The father sees them as a threat which i dont really understand.

The idea of the father teaching the boy how to kill himself was very weird at first to me but then i realized that the father just wants whats best for the boy. He never wants the boy to feel pain or be scared so that now that he knows how to kill himself, he can if he really needs to. I also think that the boy is protrayed as very naive when he asks if they can help the dying people and when he crys later about the situtaion. I dont think the boy understands the severity of the situation he is in.

Maybe the boy is protrayed as so helpless and weak to make the father seem stronger and more in control?

Zach Roberts said...

i also agree with everyone who believes that this is a story of survival. McCarthy does an excellent job in describing every single challenge that the boy and his father face. McCarthy also goes into great detail when a situation occurs, the author allows for the reader to grasp what is happening as its happening in the story.

however, i still am unsure of why the boy and his father left the bunker where they had all of the food they needed plus the protection of the doors that they locked to keep others out. if i was to choose between food and shelter and having to always be on the run, i would pick the shelter every time.

the unfortunate part of the book is that it just keeps getting more depressing and upsetting to read. there is a sense of hopelessness that comes over me every time i pick up this book to read.

Charlie said...

Like how everyone else had said, this book has come down to survival. not only is the boy and dad fighting to stay alive, he event leading up show how hard it is for them to be still living.
First if all, my only question is how are they still alive if the weather is so severe and all they have to cover them is a tarp? From the reading this book relates in a way to call f the wild, because as i remember the theme in the book was survival of the fittest and thats basically what happening now.
Also like aaron said the part with those zombies really was weird. like i said in my first blog the quote "I had a dream that this penguin that you wound up waddle and flap its flippers. And we were in that house that we used to live in and it came around the corner but nobody wound it up and it was really scary." (36) foreshadowed this event with how when they opened that door there was unexpected zombies.
All in all, the book has got very intense and its hard for me to put it down due to the creative writing style Cormac McCarthey shows throughout his novel

Tal Oringer said...

So i have ask...the people coming out from the basement, where they zombies?? And what is up with the dad telling the boy the hold the gun and when the time is right to point it up in his mouth and kill himself. and how was the boy so brave and not afriad i mean sure he was afriad lieing to his dad about not knowing what to do when he truthfully does. Its scary to read about a boy willing to just shot himself when the time comes. I wonder how the dad felt when he told his son how to kill himself with the one bullet left.

Julie Desiderio said...

One other thing that i also want to add is that the boy is now starting to question his father more than ever. He has seen his father kill a man, and walk away from many dying people that he could have helped so the boy cant understand why his father said a simple no about having to eat a human. Another thing i noticed that i dont know if everyone noticed is that until now, the father treated the boy as if he were a young child. For the first time though, the father shows the boy how to make a lamp which signifies that he recognizes the boy growing up.


I'm not sure what this really is going to end up meaning but i just wanted to bring it to everybodys attention.

Anonymous said...

I must also add that McCarthy can truly ornament such a strong reading and describe close to everything that occurs and is in the setting of the sickening events within the novel. After reading much of this novel, I have noticed how much more detailed and creative this story is compared to other readings I have read so far.

In addition, I would like to point out how the boy is by far more fearless of death than you would expect from any child and truly most adults. The boy was born into a world of chaos, death and ash. He has never learned to fear and does not complain about the starving and not having food. Imagine yourself not having food for a day. You would most likely complain for hours about not having food. This fearlessness truly separates the boy from ourselves.

Anonymous said...

As julie pointed out, the father has treated the boy more as an adult. This is somewhat weird because he is I believe younger than ten. But, unlike Julie, i believe that the father has treated his son as nearly an equal since they first began on their disturbing and sickening journey; although, he has ultimately protected his son since he his the only thing that he truly has.

GREG-OREO said...

In the next 45 pages of the Road, there were a few points that came across my head. First of all, I think the man began to go into a state of insanity. His starvation led him to go crazy for food. He began going in and out of houses just to survive. They looked for food, but with the thought that they are always good guys. They finally found some relief when the father discovered the basement with food in it. That just proved that even at the worst of times, there is always hope. I found one quote that I saw more in then the eye could catch. "He held his hand to the thin ribs. Warmth and movement. Heartbeat".(98)
I noticed how those three things are needed for survival. You also need them to keep going. Warmth may stand for happiness. Movement to keep your body going. A heartbeat to never stop. They are always on the move or on the road.

Tori Voges said...

Pages 91-135 in "The Road", made me realize how hard they try to stay alive. Along with everyone else...i think that this story had turned into a narrative on how they survive.

Even though the part with the people in the basement was really intense and scary i don't understand why they were naked in a basement. Like were they in their to be eaten? or something else?

I think that when they found food, it confused them in a way...because they were so sure that they were going to die and then suddenly their hope for survival comes again.

alexa said...

In this chapter a lot of things happen.. They found food,an old man and locked up people who were going to die... I feel like the plot is easer to follow, when there are major events occurring.

and what was up with the old man he scared me so bad!!! Is he a good guy or bad guy? It seems like a scary time when you cant even trust an old man who is almost blind and cant walk.


Another thing is when Cormac McCarthy says
"The night was casket black."
I think this quote foreshadows the future because normally the sky is the symbol of hope and now that the sky is described is such a negative light maybe this means the dad is going to die soon or the only thing that their future holds is death.

I was also relieved when the boy and the dad found food. They were barely surviving so finding a cellar with all the food and equipment was like finding paradise to them.
I like the way the author makes you feel like you're part of the journey by not naming the characters i think it has a greater impact on you.

Jables said...

This chapter was quite a trip. At first we think for sure they are going to be eaten alive by cannibals and that would be that but instead they barely escape only to find a underground chamber containing food and supplies they desperately needed for their immediate survival. Cormac your the man, you twist and manipulate each word you write into such a beautiful symphony of symbolism, and imagery. Bravo.

chris said...

Nah, I'm not scare of anything, I can keep reading till I get bored of trying to get scared by this book.

I like the Fishy's zombies, descrbing on McCarthy's relationship with the book and describe how he express his thoughts on the reader to impress his strong vocabulary words combining with different kind of metaphors/similes. HMm, I don't get it how his book is so popular if he doesn't put any quotes where the characters are talking.

My question is: How long these two brave males going to survive on this long journey?

They have lots of fears these past days. Especially the boy, he is scared like every minute of his life.

Man, how long this road is going for?

Or maybe I should call it the "Endless Road".

Symbolizing the best word in these 45 pages, is the survival.

Well, hope this is good enough to keep myself reading..well maybe :/

Zach Roberts said...

The fear of survival scares the boy because of the fact that the zombies will do anything to kill the boy and his father. Also, the father is starting to go insane due to lack of food and because of the group of people who will kill any living person just to use them as food. the boy and his father need to get to the coast so or I fear that they may be dead by the end of the story, they can't last much longer on the path they are following they will die. The father knows this and he does not want to have his son be more frightened by the fact that they may not make it to the coast alive.

chris said...

I also think that finding a basement type through the hatch was a sign to hope to them. Everything they needed was there and they could get their hours of sleep in. I think that was their best gift on the journey and they start as their were from the beginning of the book/journey.

chris said...

oops that little paragraph summary there should be in week 4, sorry for loosing my count with the book, I guess I read too mych lol.

Anonymous said...

McCarthy depicts a father and son's relationship along a terrible, sickening, and deathly travel. I believe McCarthy is trying to express the expectations of the father and the father figure entirely. The father is so well depicted as a father that even if he did not specifically say he is a father, you could clearly identify him as a father.

You can see how McCarthy expresses the father's exterior character with his actions. He puts his own life at risk constantly throughout the book; for example, the father always gives his son the pistol every time he fears they are in danger.

Sasha N said...

I’m really having a hard time trying to understand this book. Can anyone help me? First they find a bunch of food and there is the scary old man and all those locked up people. Why were they locked up? I don’t get it. Were the tainted or defected by radiation or effects from what has happened? Or are they kept there for food for the old man? Its really eerie, because this is what everyone fears is going to happen in the future and I think that’s why this book was so successful. It portrayed everyone’s fears and concerns for the future or the unknown. Regardless in extremely lost and I do not fully understand. Brennan even said he thinks there are a lot of metaphors and foreshadowing but I don’t get his writing or his style so I’m really lost. I also don’t understand why they would even want to be alive. I think that a life like that isn’t really worth having, what ever is after death cant be as bad as trying to survive like that. I’m just really lost. Is this book just about survival or is it about the will of a man to protect his son? Or is it the bond between a father and son?

Aaron Fisher said...

just a side note: I think a more eye catching title for this book would have been...

"The Road, or lack there of" by Cormac McCarthy

Tal Oringer said...

this book is really vivid. its like your looking through their eyes(the dad or boy). he discribes the people who are locked up in the basement as evil creatures that will eventually eat each other until there is nothing left. however the family who were walking toward the house where clearly the ones who controlled what went on and who ate who. also i was in such relieve when they found that basement filled with food and utensils. But, at the same tiime dissapointed that there was no gun and they didt stay longer. then there is thhe old man who is just so creepy.
As i was reading this, and aarons comment it really made me question..."is this the outcome of our future if we are still looking into weapons of mass distruction, or of any sort?"